tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9393658.post111885893520645711..comments2023-10-21T02:38:56.680-07:00Comments on Going to Pieces: Reasonable doubtDiane Perinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07447372718275554860noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9393658.post-1119128079489209462005-06-18T13:54:00.000-07:002005-06-18T13:54:00.000-07:00Hey Diane,We're just testing you to make sure you ...Hey Diane,<BR/><BR/>We're just testing you to make sure you aren't sleeping through those continuing ed classes you're taking.<BR/><BR/>(giggles)...Debrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07504185070473121551noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9393658.post-1118979059772738082005-06-16T20:30:00.000-07:002005-06-16T20:30:00.000-07:00Actually, it's "beyond a reasonable doubt" in all ...Actually, it's "beyond a reasonable doubt" in all criminal cases, because the accused's freedom -- a fundamental constitutional right -- is at stake. The preponderance of evidence standard is for civil cases, where just money (usually) is at stake.Diane Perinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07447372718275554860noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9393658.post-1118972087156160702005-06-16T18:34:00.000-07:002005-06-16T18:34:00.000-07:00Most of the members of the jury felt that he is a ...Most of the members of the jury felt that he is a pedophile BUT, given the evidence, they could not come back with a *guilty* verdict. BTW, I do believe that "beyond a reasonable doubt" applies ONLY in murder and, possibly, manslaughter. It MAY be that it is also the case in capital crimes (such as the pedophile charge) but I can't remember. I do know that in other types of cases it is a "Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9393658.post-1118930880386306962005-06-16T07:08:00.000-07:002005-06-16T07:08:00.000-07:00Personally, I think he probably did it, but it cou...Personally, I think he probably did it, but it could'nt be proved. <BR/>Belief isn't proof and proof is what was needed. If anything, I hope he is able to get some help, because he obviously has some huge problems to work through.Ellehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09095739010254230266noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9393658.post-1118930809948320942005-06-16T07:06:00.000-07:002005-06-16T07:06:00.000-07:00Diane,Thank you for a well composed and reasoned e...Diane,<BR/><BR/>Thank you for a well composed and reasoned explanation of this. Although I have questions about Jackson's behavior, I too think that the jury had no choice but to vote not guilty. <BR/><BR/>And, like OJ, not guilty does not mean innocent.<BR/><BR/>And, I sadly believe that the jury in the OJ trial was bound by the same requirement of reasonable doubt.. but I resent that they Debrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07504185070473121551noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9393658.post-1118894658545629852005-06-15T21:04:00.000-07:002005-06-15T21:04:00.000-07:00I guess I was getting at that believing that he's ...I guess I was getting at that believing that he's guilty (from all sorts of bizarre stuff that surely sounds like suspicious behavior on his part) is a different matter from PROVING him guilty "beyond a reasonable doubt" as that phrase is defined in the law. It really is a very high standard. And as someone who used to do a fair amount of jury trial work, I'm always really impressed when I see Diane Perinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07447372718275554860noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9393658.post-1118887076649052182005-06-15T18:57:00.000-07:002005-06-15T18:57:00.000-07:00I have no doubt that he is guilty. But I think the...I have no doubt that he is guilty. But I think the sleazy mother was put on trial and not Michael. Even sleazy people deserve justice, and it did not happen. I'm no legal eagle and I will probably never get to sit on a high profile jury - just believe in my intuition.Gerriehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06292762162661584206noreply@blogger.com